2008.10.15 Testing Team Meeting Agenda/Minutes

Meeting Attendees

• Mat Krogulecki, Chris Hubbard, Macello Sgambelluri, Rich and Ryan Darling, Mathew Miller, Paul Morgan, Kevin Frasier, Lisa Vickery, Sue Bozic

Agenda / Minutes

1. WRAP UP I-CMM eval for AIA-TAP BIM Awards of 2008:  Mat Krogulecki

a. Final scores review

b. Procedures review and questions

c. Improvements for next year

Krogulecki suggested a Submission questionnaire for TAP Award applicants.

Mat Miller supported the idea, Chris Hubbard suggested submitters should score themselves, we rescore if needed.

Chris also suggests that a criteria paper written on Categories and levels, basic criteria on when it flips over to the next level, more specificity in level descriptions, what is 'few', what is 'some', do we enumerate what these are specifically?

All agreed we may require a more thoroughly documented product for a potential next round of I-CMM.

Krogulecki suggested group training for all Testing Team scorers before the next round. Maybe everyone score one project as a group at a Test Team monthly meeting before we do the next TAP awards.

Chris suggested that the thing should stand on it's own, and be more objective and well documented: 'Can you drop this in an architects lap without prior knowledge and have them produce a good score?'

We tabled the discussion for further review.

d. Paper on this year's awards - Krogulecki

Approach: Look at average scores as indicator of industry implementation, then compare to BIM industry survey

Paper not yet complete, maybe one week. Suermann and McCuen have review incomplete paper, more to come.

2. Pankow IFC project:  Alan Edgar 

      Alan did not attend the meeting. A short discussion of "virtual construction" was conducted instead.

     3. Guest Lecture:  MACTEC, Mat Krogulecki

Vertex for Asset Management 

I-CMM Scoring - 52 Certified

BIMam as Spatial Extension for Vertex  

Facility Lifecycle Group is a division of MACTEC, Inc, and Krogulecki presented on Vertex, FLG's flagship asset management product. Screen shots of the major capabilities of Vertex were shown, then Mat discussed BIM extensions to the Vertex asset management database, showing a warehouse BIM built using Vertex data.

A discussion of BIM data collection methods followed, with particular interest in Laser scanning and model development using various field techniques. Chris reminded all that one of the TAP submissions had to do with laser scanning. Companies mentioned as offering service in this area included: Quantipoint and MapCon. Chris said that Quantipoint had made quotes to him of 10K sf per day using laser scan methods, at $100/sf. They charge $60/per hour to turn the data into a model.

Krogulecki said he would locate the contact info of an ACOE representative who was preparing a paper on data collection methods, and make it available.

This discussion led Richard and Ryan Darling to volunteer to present next meeting on their use of data collection technology for BIM development. 

4. Presentor for next meeting?

Richard and Ryan Darling will present on Laser Scanning/data collection for BIM development.

Meeting concluded at approximately 2pm.